`On Mon 07 Mar 08:13 PST 2022, Andy Shevchenko wrote:> On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 06:48:25AM -0800, Bjorn Andersson wrote:> > On Mon 07 Mar 02:16 PST 2022, Andy Shevchenko wrote:> > > On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 07:40:40PM -0800, Bjorn Andersson wrote:> > ...> > > > > +		/* 15us to allow the SBU switch to turn off */> > > > +		usleep_range(15, 1000);> > > > > > This is quite unusual range.> > > > > > If you are fine with the long delay, why to stress the system on it?> > > Otherwise the use of 1000 is unclear.> > > > > > That said, I would expect one of the below:> > > > > > 		usleep_range(15, 30);> > > 		usleep_range(500, 1000);> > > > Glad you asked about that, as you say the typical form is to keep the> > range within 2x of the lower value, or perhaps lower + 5.> > > > But if the purpose is to specify a minimum time and then give a max to> > give the system some flexibility in it's decision of when to wake up.> > And in situations such as this, we're talking about someone connecting a> > cable, so we're in "no rush" and I picked the completely arbitrary 1ms> > as the max.> > > > Do you see any drawback of this much higher number? (Other than it> > looking "wrong")> > I see the drawback of low number.15us is based on the data sheet and if the kernel is ready to serve usafter 15us then let's do that.> The 1000 makes not much sense to me with the minimum 66x times less.> If there is no rush, use some reasonable values,> what about> > 		usleep_range(100, 1000);> > ? 10x is way better than 66x.I don't agree, and in particular putting 100 here because it's 1/10 ofthe number I just made up doesn't sounds like a good reason. Thedatasheet says 15us, so that is at least based on something real.In https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/timers/timers-howto.txtI find the following:    With the introduction of a range, the scheduler is    free to coalesce your wakeup with any other wakeup    that may have happened for other reasons, or at the    worst case, fire an interrupt for your upper bound.    The larger a range you supply, the greater a chance    that you will not trigger an interrupt; this should    be balanced with what is an acceptable upper bound on    delay / performance for your specific code path. Exact    tolerances here are very situation specific, thus it    is left to the caller to determine a reasonable range.Which to me says that the wider range is perfectly reasonable. Inparticular 15, 30 (which seems to be quite common) makes the availablerange to the scheduler unnecessarily narrow.And it's clear that whatever the upper bound it's going to be somearbitrary number, but 1ms should ensure that there are other hrtimerinterrupts to piggy back on.Regards,Bjorn`