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SubjectRe: [PATCH v3 1/1] process_madvise.2: Add process_madvise man page
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Hello Suren,

On 2/2/21 11:12 PM, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:45 AM Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Suren (and Minchan and Michal)
>>
>> Thank you for the revisions!
>>
>> I've applied this patch, and done a few light edits.
>
> Thanks!
>
>>
>> However, I have a questions about undocumented pieces in *madvise(2)*,
>> as well as one other question. See below.
>>
>> On 2/2/21 6:30 AM, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>> Initial version of process_madvise(2) manual page. Initial text was
>>> extracted from [1], amended after fix [2] and more details added using
>>> man pages of madvise(2) and process_vm_read(2) as examples. It also
>>> includes the changes to required permission proposed in [3].
>>>
>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1297933/
>>> [2] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/12/8/1282
>>> [3] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/selinux/patch/20210111170622.2613577-1-surenb@google.com/#23888311
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
>>> Reviewed-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>>> ---
>>> changes in v2:
>>> - Changed description of MADV_COLD per Michal Hocko's suggestion
>>> - Applied fixes suggested by Michael Kerrisk
>>> changes in v3:
>>> - Added Michal's Reviewed-by
>>> - Applied additional fixes suggested by Michael Kerrisk
>>>
>>> NAME
>>> process_madvise - give advice about use of memory to a process
>>>
>>> SYNOPSIS
>>> #include <sys/uio.h>
>>>
>>> ssize_t process_madvise(int pidfd,
>>> const struct iovec *iovec,
>>> unsigned long vlen,
>>> int advice,
>>> unsigned int flags);
>>>
>>> DESCRIPTION
>>> The process_madvise() system call is used to give advice or directions
>>> to the kernel about the address ranges of another process or the calling
>>> process. It provides the advice to the address ranges described by iovec
>>> and vlen. The goal of such advice is to improve system or application
>>> performance.
>>>
>>> The pidfd argument is a PID file descriptor (see pidfd_open(2)) that
>>> specifies the process to which the advice is to be applied.
>>>
>>> The pointer iovec points to an array of iovec structures, defined in
>>> <sys/uio.h> as:
>>>
>>> struct iovec {
>>> void *iov_base; /* Starting address */
>>> size_t iov_len; /* Number of bytes to transfer */
>>> };
>>>
>>> The iovec structure describes address ranges beginning at iov_base address
>>> and with the size of iov_len bytes.
>>>
>>> The vlen represents the number of elements in the iovec structure.
>>>
>>> The advice argument is one of the values listed below.
>>>
>>> Linux-specific advice values
>>> The following Linux-specific advice values have no counterparts in the
>>> POSIX-specified posix_madvise(3), and may or may not have counterparts
>>> in the madvise(2) interface available on other implementations.
>>>
>>> MADV_COLD (since Linux 5.4.1)
>>
>> I just noticed these version numbers now, and thought: they can't be
>> right (because the system call appeared only in v5.11). So I removed
>> them. But, of course in another sense the version numbers are (nearly)
>> right, since these advice values were added for madvise(2) in Linux 5.4.
>> However, they are not documented in the madvise(2) manual page. Is it
>> correct to assume that MADV_COLD and MADV_PAGEOUT have exactly the same
>> meaning in madvise(2) (but just for the calling process, of course)?
>
> Correct. They should be added in the madvise(2) man page as well IMHO.

So, I decided to move the description of MADV_COLD and MADV_PAGEOUT
to madvise(2) and refer to that page from the process_madvise(2)
page. This avoids repeating the same information in two places.

>>> Deactive a given range of pages which will make them a more probable
>>
>> I changed: s/Deactive/Deactivate/
>
> thanks!
>
>>
>>> reclaim target should there be a memory pressure. This is a
>>> nondestructive operation. The advice might be ignored for some pages
>>> in the range when it is not applicable.
>>>
>>> MADV_PAGEOUT (since Linux 5.4.1)
>>> Reclaim a given range of pages. This is done to free up memory occupied
>>> by these pages. If a page is anonymous it will be swapped out. If a
>>> page is file-backed and dirty it will be written back to the backing
>>> storage. The advice might be ignored for some pages in the range when
>>> it is not applicable.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> The hint might be applied to a part of iovec if one of its elements points
>>> to an invalid memory region in the remote process. No further elements will
>>> be processed beyond that point.
>>
>> Is the above scenario the one that leads to the partial advice case described in
>> RETURN VALUE? If yes, perhaps I should add some words to make that clearer.
>
> Correct. This describes the case when partial advice happens.

Thanks. I added a few words to clarify this.


>> You can see the light edits that I made in
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/commit/?id=e3ce016472a1b3ec5dffdeb23c98b9fef618a97b
>> and following that I restructured DESCRIPTION a little in
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/commit/?id=3aac0708a9acee5283e091461de6a8410bc921a6
>
> The edits LGTM.

Thanks for checking them.

Cheers,

Michael


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