Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:29:11 +0200 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] Recommend denylist/allowlist instead of blacklist/whitelist |
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On Sat 2020-06-13 00:40:59, Michael Ellerman wrote: > Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz> writes: > > On 11. 06. 20, 9:38, SeongJae Park wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 23:35:24 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 08:25 +0200, SeongJae Park wrote: > >>>> From: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de> > >>>> > >>>> This patchset 1) adds support of deprecated terms in the 'checkpatch.pl' > >>>> and 2) set the 'blacklist' and 'whitelist' as deprecated with > >>>> replacement suggestion of 'denylist' and 'allowlist', because the > >>>> suggestions are incontrovertible, doesn't make people hurt, and more > >>>> self-explanatory. > >>> > >>> While the checkpatch implementation is better, > >>> I'm still very "meh" about the whole concept. > >> > >> I can understand your concerns about politic things in the second patch. > >> However, the concept of the 'deprecated terms' in the first patch is not > >> political but applicable to the general cases. We already had the commits[1] > >> for a similar case. So, could you ack for at least the first patch? > >> > >> [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Kernel-Hugs > > > > Fuck you! replaced by hug you! is a completely different story. The > > former is indeed offending to majority (despite it's quite common to > > tell someone "fuck you" in my subregion; OTOH hugging, no way -- I'm a > > straight non-communist). If it turns out that any word (e.g. blacklist) > > offends _majority_ (or at least a significant part of it) of some > > minority or culture, then sure, we should send it to /dev/null. > > should by no means listen to extreme individuals. > > I agree you have to draw the line somewhere, there will always be > someone somewhere that's offended by something. But this seems like a > pretty easy case. > > It's not like blacklist / whitelist are even good to begin with, it's > not obvious which is which, you have to learn that black is bad and > white is good. > > Blocklist (or denylist?) and allowlist are actually more descriptive and > less likely to cause confusion.
You do not understand how word "blacklist" is used inside the kernel, do you? Do a quick grep. Pavel
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