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SubjectRe: [PATCH] huge tmpfs: try to split_huge_page() when punching hole
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 08:06:33PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Yang Shi writes:
> Currently, when truncating a shmem file, if the range is partly in a THP
> (start or end is in the middle of THP), the pages actually will just get
> cleared rather than being freed, unless the range covers the whole THP.
> Even though all the subpages are truncated (randomly or sequentially),
> the THP may still be kept in page cache.
> This might be fine for some usecases which prefer preserving THP, but
> balloon inflation is handled in base page size. So when using shmem THP
> as memory backend, QEMU inflation actually doesn't work as expected since
> it doesn't free memory. But the inflation usecase really needs to get
> the memory freed. (Anonymous THP will also not get freed right away,
> but will be freed eventually when all subpages are unmapped: whereas
> shmem THP still stays in page cache.)
> Split THP right away when doing partial hole punch, and if split fails
> just clear the page so that read of the punched area will return zeroes.
> Hugh Dickins adds:
> Our earlier "team of pages" huge tmpfs implementation worked in the way
> that Yang Shi proposes; and we have been using this patch to continue to
> split the huge page when hole-punched or truncated, since converting over
> to the compound page implementation. Although huge tmpfs gives out huge
> pages when available, if the user specifically asks to truncate or punch
> a hole (perhaps to free memory, perhaps to reduce the memcg charge), then
> the filesystem should do so as best it can, splitting the huge page.

I'm still uncomfortable with proposition to use truncate or punch a hole
operations to manage memory footprint. These operations are about managing
storage footprint, not memory. This happens to be the same for tmpfs.

I wounder if we should consider limiting the behaviour to the operation
that explicitly combines memory and storage managing: MADV_REMOVE. This
way we can avoid future misunderstandings with THP backed by a real

> }
> /*
> + * Check whether a hole-punch or truncation needs to split a huge page,
> + * returning true if no split was required, or the split has been successful.
> + *
> + * Eviction (or truncation to 0 size) should never need to split a huge page;
> + * but in rare cases might do so, if shmem_undo_range() failed to trylock on
> + * head, and then succeeded to trylock on tail.
> + *
> + * A split can only succeed when there are no additional references on the
> + * huge page: so the split below relies upon find_get_entries() having stopped
> + * when it found a subpage of the huge page, without getting further references.
> + */
> +static bool shmem_punch_compound(struct page *page, pgoff_t start, pgoff_t end)
> +{
> + if (!PageTransCompound(page))
> + return true;
> +
> + /* Just proceed to delete a huge page wholly within the range punched */
> + if (PageHead(page) &&
> + page->index >= start && page->index + HPAGE_PMD_NR <= end)
> + return true;
> +
> + /* Try to split huge page, so we can truly punch the hole or truncate */
> + return split_huge_page(page) >= 0;
> +}

I wanted to recommend taking into account khugepaged_max_ptes_none here,
but it will nullify usefulness of the feature for ballooning. Oh, well...

Kirill A. Shutemov

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