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SubjectRe: [RFC PATCH v1 08/25] printk: add ring buffer and kthread
On (03/11/19 11:51), John Ogness wrote:
> > In new printk design the tasks are still affected by printing floods.
> > Tasks have to line up and (busy) wait for each other, regardless of
> > contexts.
>
> They only line up and busy wait is to add the informational message to
> the ring buffer. The current printk implementation is the same in this
> respect. And as you've noted, the logbuf spinlock is not a source of
> latencies.

I was talking about prb_lock().

> > When I do ./a.out --loglevel=X I have a clear understanding that
> > all messages which fall into [critical, X] range will be in the logs,
> > because I told that application that those messages are important to
> > me right now. And it used to be the same with the kernel loglevel.
>
> The loglevel is not related to logging. It specifies the amount of
> console printing. But I will assume you are referring to creating log
> files by having an external device store the console printing.

Right. E.g. screenlog.0

> > But now the kernel will do its own thing:
> >
> > - what the kernel considers important will go into the logs
> > - what the kernel doesn't consider important _maybe_ will end up
> > in the logs (preemptible printk kthread). And this is where
> > loglevel now. After the _maybe_ part.
>
> "what the kernel considers" is a configuration option of the
> administrator. The administrator can increase the verbocity of the
> console (loglevel) without having negative effects on the system
> itself. Also, if the system were to suddenly crash, those crash messages
> shouldn't be in jeopardy just because the verbocity of the console was
> turned up.

Right. I'm not very sure about yet another knob which everyone
should figure out. I guess I won't be surprised to find out that
people set it to loglevel value.

-ss

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