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SubjectRe: [PATCH RFC 04/15] KVM: Implement ring-based dirty memory tracking
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 05:48:58PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 17/12/19 17:42, Peter Xu wrote:
> >
> > However I just noticed something... Note that we still didn't read
> > into non-x86 archs, I think it's the same question as when I asked
> > whether we can unify the kvm[_vcpu]_write() interfaces and you'd like
> > me to read the non-x86 archs - I think it's time I read them, because
> > it's still possible that non-x86 archs will still need the per-vm
> > ring... then that could be another problem if we want to at last
> > spread the dirty ring idea outside of x86.
> We can take a look, but I think based on x86 experience it's okay if we
> restrict dirty ring to arches that do no VM-wide accesses.

Here it is - a quick update on callers of mark_page_dirty_in_slot().
The same reverse trace, but ignoring all common and x86 code path
(which I covered in the other thread):


mark_page_dirty_in_slot (non-x86)
vgic_its_save_ite [?]
vgic_its_save_dte [?]
vgic_its_save_cte [?]
vgic_its_save_collection_table [?]
vgic_v3_lpi_sync_pending_status [?]
vgic_v3_save_pending_tables [?]
kvmppc_rtas_hcall [&]
kvmppc_st [&]
access_guest [&]
put_guest_lc [&]
write_guest_lc [&]
write_guest_abs [&]
_kvm_mips_map_page_fast [&]
kvm_mips_map_page [&]
kvmppc_mmu_map_page [&]
kvmppc_h_page_init [&]
kvmppc_xive_native_vcpu_eq_sync [&]
adapter_indicators_set [?] (from kvm_set_irq)
kvm_s390_sync_dirty_log [?]
unpin_blocks [&]
unpin_scb [&]

Cases with [*]: should not matter much
[&]: should be able to change to per-vcpu context
[?]: uncertain...


This time we've got 8 leaves with "[?]".

I'm starting with these:

vgic_its_save_ite [?]
vgic_its_save_dte [?]
vgic_its_save_cte [?]
vgic_its_save_collection_table [?]
vgic_v3_lpi_sync_pending_status [?]
vgic_v3_save_pending_tables [?]

These come from ARM specific ioctls like KVM_DEV_ARM_ITS_SAVE_TABLES,
IIUC ARM needed these to allow proper migration which indeed does not
have a vcpu context.

(Though I'm a bit curious why ARM didn't simply migrate these
information explicitly from userspace, instead it seems to me that
ARM guests will dump something into guest ram and then tries to
recover from that which seems to be a bit weird)

Then it's this:

adapter_indicators_set [?]

This is s390 specific, which should come from kvm_set_irq. I'm not
sure whether we can remove the mark_page_dirty() call of this, if it's
applied from another kernel structure (which should be migrated
properly IIUC). But I might be completely wrong.

kvm_s390_sync_dirty_log [?]

This is also s390 specific, should be collecting from the hardware
PGSTE_UC_BIT bit. No vcpu context for sure.

(I'd be glad too if anyone could hint me why x86 cannot use page table
dirty bits for dirty tracking, if there's short answer...)

I think my conclusion so far...

- for s390 I don't think we even need this dirty ring buffer thing,
because I think hardware trackings should be more efficient, then
we don't need to care much on that either from design-wise of
dirty ring,

- for ARM, those no-vcpu-context dirty tracking probably needs to be
considered, but hopefully that's a very special path so it rarely
happen. The bad thing is I didn't dig how many pages will be
dirtied when ARM guest starts to dump all these things so it could
be a burst... If it is, then there's risk to trigger the ring
full condition (which we wanted to avoid..)

I'm CCing Eric for ARM, Conny&David for s390, just in case there're
further inputs.


Peter Xu

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