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SubjectRe: [PATCHES] tty ioctls cleanups, compat and not only
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 01:19:42PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:31 AM Al Viro <> wrote:
> >
> > See vfs.git#work.tty-ioctl. Completely untested, should seriously
> > clean the things up wrt compat. Remaining problems (aside of the bugs
> > introduced in it, of course):
> > * TIOCSERGSTRUCT must die; it's present only in amiserial and it's
> > _vile_; look at what it copies out and weep.
> > * synclink_gt has proper compat handling for its private ioctls;
> > other synclink drivers (with the same ioctls) do not.
> > * dgnc definitely has buggered ioctls - structs full of longs are
> > bloody bad idea for passing around. It's in staging, and I'd say that it
> > needs the userland ABI fixed.
> > * cyclades, rocket, moxa and mxser probably have non-trivial
> > problems with their private ioctls; I hadn't looked into those.
> > * n_gsm needs ->compat_ioctl(); easy to do, I just hadn't done it
> > yet.
> > * ipwireless might or might not need compat_ioctl (PPP stuff in it);
> > not sure.
> > * ldisc private ioctls need more work. Hadn't gone there yet.
> > Generic ioctls should be fine - they never reach ->compat_ioctl() with this
> > series.
> I looked at all the new patches, looks all good to me. When I did my
> (incomplete) analysis, I found a couple more things that could be
> included in the series if we want to:
> * TIOCSERGWILD/TIOCSERSWILD are obsolete and never do
> anything useful, but the return code is inconsistent: ENOTTY
> in compat mode vs 0 in uart_ioctl, plus a printk for amiserial.
> If we want to keep it around rather than deleting it completely,
> it should be marked as compatible.

Yes. Not sure if we want to - the only user is setserial(8), with
-W Do wild interrupt initialization and exit. This option is no
longer relevant in Linux kernels after version 2.1.

What's more, rc.serial does *not* use it since 2.15 and even in 2.14 it wouldn't
have failed the boot - just whine (truthfully) "Cannot scan for wild interrupts"
on stderr and continue with the rest of the script. The same goes at least as
far back as setserial-2.02. That's what MCC had; if you want to check something
earlier, you'll probably have to ask tytso, but I very much doubt that anything
of that vintage will work with the current kernels *or* that anyone cared to
abort the script in question on setserial -W /dev/cua0 failing to start with.

So I'd seriously suggest removing those altogether. I mean, sure, we can carry
explicit "obsolete, quietly return 0 on those" indefinitely, but that really feels
over the top. Time to bury the body, unless somebody objects...

> * PPPIOCGCHAN/PPPIOCGUNIT are implemented by multiple
> ldisc variants, marking them as compatible would save us from
> implementing a comp_ioctl method for each one separately.
> These are also used on some things that are not ttys though,
> so we can't remove them from fs/compat_ioctl.c yet.

Worse - there's ipwireless, which implements it in tty_operations ->ioctl().

> * FIONREAD/TIOCINQ and TIOCOUTQ also appear multiple
> times and could be added to that list but not removed from
> fs/compat_ioctl.c (I think the other users are all in sockets, so
> adding them in both might be sufficient)

Pipes as well.

> SIOCSOUTFILL, and SIOCGOUTFILL are in the tty_ioctl
> functions for multiple protocol handlers, comparable to
> the PPP ones.

Very definitely shared with sockets, and I prefer to handle the tty-side cases
in ldisc ->compat_ioctl().

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