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SubjectRe: [PATCH v2] PCI/AER: Fix aerdrv loading with "pcie_ports=native" parameter
On 06/30/2018 04:31 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> [+cc Borislav, linux-acpi, since this involves APEI/HEST]

Borislav is not the relevant maintainer here, since we're not contingent
on APEI handling. I think Keith has a lot more experience with this part
of the kernel.

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 02:58:20PM -0500, Alexandru Gagniuc wrote:
>> According to the documentation, "pcie_ports=native", linux should use
>> native AER and DPC services. While that is true for the _OSC method
>> parsing, this is not the only place that is checked. Should the HEST
>> table list PCIe ports as firmware-first, linux will not use native
>> services.
> Nothing in ACPI-land looks at pcie_ports_native. How should ACPI
> things work in the "pcie_ports=native" case? I guess we still have to
> expect to receive error records from the firmware, because it may
> certainly send us non-PCI errors (machine checks, etc) and maybe even
> some PCI errors (even if the Linux AER driver claims AER interrupts,
> we don't know what notification mechanisms the firmware may be using).

I think ACPI land shouldn't care about this. We care about it from the
PCIe stand point at the interface with ACPI. FW might see a delta in the
sense that we request control of some features via _OSC, which we
otherwise would not do without pcie_ports=native.

> I guess best-case, we'll get ACPI error records for all non-PCI
> things, and the Linux AER driver will see all the AER errors.

It might affect FW's ability to catch errors, but that's dependent on
the root port implementation.

> Worst-case, I don't really know what to expect. Duplicate reporting
> of AER errors via firmware and Linux AER driver? Some kind of
> confusion about who acknowledges and clears them?

Once user enters pcie_ports=native, all bets are off: you broke the
contract you have with the FW -- whether or not you have this patch.

> Out of curiosity, what is your use case for "pcie_ports=native"?
> Presumably there's something that works better when using it, and
> things work even *better* with this patch?

Corectness. It bothers me that actual behavior does not match the

native Use native PCIe services associated with PCIe ports

> I know people do use it, because I often see it mentioned in forums
> and bug reports, but I really don't expect it to work very well
> because we're ignoring the usage model the firmware is designed
> around. My unproven suspicion is that most uses are in the black
> magic category of "there's a bug here, and we don't know how to fix
> it, but pcie_ports=native makes it work better".

There exist cases that firmware didn't consider. I would not call them
"firmware bugs", but there are cases where the user understands the
platform better than firmware.
Example: on certain PCIe switches, a hardware PCIe error may bring the
switch downstream ports into a state where they stop notifying hotplug
events. Depending on the platform, firmware may or may not fix this
condition, but "pcie_ports=native" enables DPC. DPC contains the error
without the switch downstream port entering the weird error state in the
first place.

All bets are off at this point.

> Obviously I would much rather find and fix those bugs so people
> wouldn't have to stumble over the problem in the first place.

Using native services when firmware asks us not to is a crapshoot every
time. I don't condone the use of this feature, but if we do get a
pcie_ports=native request, we should at least honor it.

>> This happens because aer_acpi_firmware_first() doesn't take
>> 'pcie_ports' into account. This is wrong. DPC uses the same logic when
>> it decides whether to load or not, so fixing this also fixes DPC not
>> loading.
>> Signed-off-by: Alexandru Gagniuc <>
>> ---
>> drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c | 5 ++++-
>> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> Changes since v1:
>> - Re-tested with latest and greatest (v4.18-rc1) -- works great
>> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c b/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
>> index a2e88386af28..98ced0f7c850 100644
>> --- a/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
>> +++ b/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
>> @@ -291,7 +291,7 @@ static void aer_set_firmware_first(struct pci_dev *pci_dev)
>> rc = apei_hest_parse(aer_hest_parse, &info);
>> - if (rc)
>> + if (rc || pcie_ports_native)
>> pci_dev->__aer_firmware_first = 0;
>> else
>> pci_dev->__aer_firmware_first = info.firmware_first;
>> @@ -327,6 +327,9 @@ bool aer_acpi_firmware_first(void)
>> apei_hest_parse(aer_hest_parse, &info);
>> aer_firmware_first = info.firmware_first;
>> parsed = true;
>> + if (pcie_ports_native)
>> + aer_firmware_first = 0;
>> +
>> }
>> return aer_firmware_first;
>> }
>> --
>> 2.14.3

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