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SubjectRe: [PATCH] kdump: add default crashkernel reserve kernel config options
On 05/24/18 at 08:57am, Petr Tesarik wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:49:05 +0800
> Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Petr,
> >
> > On 05/23/18 at 10:22pm, Petr Tesarik wrote:
> >[...]
> > > In short, if one size fits none, what good is it to hardcode that "one
> > > size" into the kernel image?
> >
> > I agreed with all the things that we can not know the exact memory
> > requirement for 100% use cases. But that does not means this is useless
> > it is still useful for common use cases of no special and memory hog
> > requirements as I mentioned in another reply it can simplify the kdump
> > deployment for those people who do not need the special setup.
>
> I still tend to disagree. This "common-case" reservation depends on
> things that are defined by user space. It surely does not make it
> easier to build a distribution kernel. Today, I get bug reports that
> the number calculated and added to the boot loader configuration by the
> installer is inaccurate. If I put a fixed number into a kernel config
> option, I will start getting bugs that this number is incorrect (for
> some systems).
>
> > For example, if this is a workstation I just want to break into a shell
> > to collect some panic info, then I just need a very minimal initrd, then
> > the Kconfig will work just fine.
>
> What is "a very minimal initrd"? Last time I had to make a significant
> adjustment to the estimation for openSUSE, this was caused by growing
> user-space requirements (systemd in this case, but I don't want to
> start flamewars on that topic, please).
>
> Anyway, if you want to improve the "common case", then look how IBM
> tries to solve it for firmware-assisted dump (fadump) on powerpc:
>
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/905026/
>
> The main idea is:
>
> > Instead of setting aside a significant chunk of memory nobody can use,
> > [...] reserve a significant chunk of memory that the kernel is prevented
> > from using [...], but applications are free to use it.
>
> That works great, because user space pages are filtered out in the
> common case, so they can be used freely by the panic kernel.

This seems a good idea, just makedumpfile need be adjusted since it allows
user to decide if dump user space data or not.

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