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SubjectRE: [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2] cpuidle: New timer events oriented governor for tickless systems
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On 2018.11.05 11:12 Giovanni Gherdovich wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-11-02 at 08:39 -0700, Doug Smythies wrote:
> ...[snip]...
>>
>> After reading Giovanni's reply the other day, I tried the
>> Phoronix dbench test: 12 clients resulted in similar performance,
>> But TEOv2 used a little less processor package power; 256 clients
>> had about -7% performance using TEOv2, but (my numbers are not
>> exact) also used less processor package power.
>
> Uhm, I see. The results I've got vary between machines; that could
> depend on the CPU type.

Agreed.

> What is your machine processor model,
> and how many logical cores does it have?

Sorry, I had meant to include that in my original e-mail.
My test server has an older i7-2600K processor.
It has 4 cores, and 8 CPUs.

> For the record, in my previous email I wrote that my script runs dbench with
> up to NUMCPUS*8 clients, but that's misleading; indeed for the 48-cores
> machines I had runs with 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 and 64 clients.
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1541010981.3423.2.camel@suse.cz/
>
> The sequence is generated with
>
> CLIENT=1
> DBENCH_MAX_CLIENTS=$((NUMCPUS*8))
>
> while [ $CLIENT -le $DBENCH_MAX_CLIENTS ]; do
>
> ./bin/dbench [...] $CLIENT
>
> if [ $CLIENT -lt $NUMCPUS ]; then
> CLIENT=$((CLIENT*2))
> else
> CLIENT=$((CLIENT*8))
> fi
> done
>
> In practice the max number of clients I get is slightly below NUMCPUS*2 to
> reach saturation. I write this as I read you ran it with 256 clients but I
> never went that high.

I agree that my system is extremely overloaded and unresponsive while
running the Phoronix dbench test with 256 clients. However, I did it
because it gives a rather high number of idle state 0 entries/exits
per unit time.

>>
>> On 2018.10.31 11:36 Giovanni Gherdovich wrote:
>>
>>> Something I'd like to do now is verify that "teo"'s predictions
>>> are better than "menu"'s; I'll probably use systemtap to make
>>> some histograms of idle times versus what idle state was chosen
>>> -- that'd be enough to compare the two.
>>
>> I don't know what a "systemtap" is, but I have (crude) tools to
>> post process trace data into histograms data. I did 5 minute
>> traces during the 12 client Phoronix dbench test and plotted
>> the results, [1]. Sometimes, to the right of the autoscaled
>> graph is another with fixed scaling. Better grouping of idle
>> durations with TEOv2 are clearly visible.
>>
>> ... Doug
>>
>> [1] http://fast.smythies.com/linux-pm/k419p/histo_compare.htm
>
> Oh, that's interesting, thanks. Can you post the break-even residency times and
> exit latencies for your CPUs? On my Skylake test machine I get this from sysfs:
>
> $ cd /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuidle
> $ for state in * ; do
> echo -e \
> "STATE: $state\t\
> DESC: $(cat $state/desc)\t\
> NAME: $(cat $state/name)\t\
> LATENCY: $(cat $state/latency)\t\
> RESIDENCY: $(cat $state/residency)"
> done
>
> STATE: state0 DESC: CPUIDLE CORE POLL IDLE NAME: POLL LATENCY: 0 RESIDENCY: 0
> STATE: state1 DESC: MWAIT 0x00 NAME: C1 LATENCY: 2 RESIDENCY: 2
> STATE: state2 DESC: MWAIT 0x01 NAME: C1E LATENCY: 10 RESIDENCY: 20
> STATE: state3 DESC: MWAIT 0x10 NAME: C3 LATENCY: 70 RESIDENCY: 100
> STATE: state4 DESC: MWAIT 0x20 NAME: C6 LATENCY: 85 RESIDENCY: 200
> STATE: state5 DESC: MWAIT 0x33 NAME: C7s LATENCY: 124 RESIDENCY: 800
> STATE: state6 DESC: MWAIT 0x40 NAME: C8 LATENCY: 200 RESIDENCY: 800

Sorry again, I had meant to include that in my original e-mail also.
And also that it was a 1000 Hz kernel (which should be evident from looking
at the graphs). Anyway using your above command on my system:

STATE: state0 DESC: CPUIDLE CORE POLL IDLE NAME: POLL LATENCY: 0 RESIDENCY: 0
STATE: state1 DESC: MWAIT 0x00 NAME: C1 LATENCY: 2 RESIDENCY: 2
STATE: state2 DESC: MWAIT 0x01 NAME: C1E LATENCY: 10 RESIDENCY: 20
STATE: state3 DESC: MWAIT 0x10 NAME: C3 LATENCY: 80 RESIDENCY: 211
STATE: state4 DESC: MWAIT 0x20 NAME: C6 LATENCY: 104 RESIDENCY: 345

... Doug


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