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SubjectRe: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:50 AM, Theodore Ts'o <> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 12:04:34PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>> The problem is that it's not _me_, it's a computer program which uses
>> some mail delivery system which I don't have full visibility into. I
>> don't know if it even gets bounce emails (as far as I understand it's
>> not LKML that generates them, LKML SMTP server just returns some error
>> code and then it's a responsibility of somebody else to represent it
>> by a reply email). If the only way to probe the behavior is to send
>> actual emails to LKML (which have high chances to be actually
>> delivered to all subscribers), it makes testing somewhat problematic.
> It looks like you're using the App Engine Mail API. You can configure
> it to get bounce e-mails[1]. From what I can tell looking at the mail
> headers, the mail gets sent via an intermediate SMTP host, such as
> before it is delievered to vger. So if vger's
> mailer bounces it via an SMTP error, it would be
>'s responsibility to generate a bounce message,
> which you then should be able to catch.
> [1]
> You should be able to test this by having your app-engine send a
> message to "". I've verified that this
> will cause an immediate SMTP error:
> 554 5.0.0 Hi [], unresolvable address: <>; nosuchuser;
> If it doesn't, you should file an internal bug report since that's
> clearly a bug in the App Engine's mail infrastructure. If you can't
> get satisfaction that way, my recommendation would be to set up an
> Linode server (you can't use GCE because GCE blocks outgoing SMTP
> connections) to be your mail gateway, and send the notifications from
> a domain such as, where you have full control of your
> mail infrastructure, and you don't have to deal with nonsense such as

Thanks, Ted! This is helpful. I've added handler for bounce emails:
And I do see them after sending to So
now hopefully it will sched some light when we get another bounce.

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