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SubjectRe: [PATCH v5 0/4] ARM: ep93xx: ts72xx: Add support for BK3 board
Hi Linus,

> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
> wrote:
> >> On Wed Dec 13 08:34:22 2017 Linus Walleij
> >> <linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
> >> > wrote: Out of curiosity: Liebherr is obviously doing heavy-duty
> >> > industrial control systems. Likewise Hartley is doing similar
> >> > business over at Vision Engravings.
> >> >
> >> > Is the situation such that there is a whole bunch of industrial
> >> > systems out there, in active use and needing future upgrades,
> >> > that use the EP93xx?
> >>
> >> That's definitely the case. I'm as well aware of several thousands
> >> of industrial devices which are expected to run 24/7 for the next 5
> >> years at least. And they are updated from time to time.
> >
> > I can agree with this statement.
>
> OK I'm coloring this platform with a highlight for ARM32 maintenance.
>
> >> > Arnd has been nudging me to do DT conversion for EP93xx
> >> > so if there are many active industrial users of these
> >> > I should prioritize it, because these things have 20+ years
> >> > support cycles.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure how important or necessary at all is to change
> >> anything in these legacy platforms.
> >
> > +1
>
> That is an understandable conservative stance.
>
> There is a fine line between "it works, don't touch it" and
> "modernize the ARM32 ecosystem".

There may be a more pragmatic reason. If those boards are deployed
(widely) in the industry - there may be a problem with re-validation of
the SW.

>
> There is a point where supporting old board files will stand in
> the way and cost a lot in maintenance (like moving drivers our
> of arch/arm, or modernizing misc subsystems). Then moving the
> platform over to device tree should be preferred.

With my limited experience - those platforms have more similarities to
x86. Multiplatform may be the goal here....

>
> > I'm using OE to build toolchain (SDK). I can confirm that gcc 7.2
> > works with it.
> >
> > And yes, armv4 support shall be preserved in GCC ....

I should have be more peculiar - this is armv4t (arm920t)

>
> Yes that is the same toochain I use.
>
> Yours,
> Linus Walleij



Best regards,

Lukasz Majewski

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