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SubjectRe: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17
----- On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:44 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com wrote:

> ----- On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@infradead.org wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:40:18AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> Oh, and the patch I am running with is below. I am running x86, and so
>>> some other architectures would of course need the corresponding patch
>>> on that architecture.
>>
>>> -#define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG 21 /* idle is polling for TIF_NEED_RESCHED */
>>> +/* #define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG 21 idle is polling for TIF_NEED_RESCHED */
>>
>> x86 is the only arch that really uses this heavily IIRC.
>>
>> Most of the other archs need interrupts to wake up remote cores.
>>
>> So what we try to do is avoid sending IPIs when the CPU is idle, for the
>> remote wakeup case we use set_nr_if_polling() which sets
>> TIF_NEED_RESCHED if TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG was set. If it wasn't, we'll send
>> the IPI. Otherwise we rely on the idle loop to do sched_ttwu_pending()
>> when it breaks out of loop due to TIF_NEED_RESCHED.
>>
>> But, you need hotplug for this to happen, right?
>
> My understanding is that this seems to be detection of failures to be
> awakened for a long time on idle CPUs. It therefore seems to be more
> idle-related than cpu hotplug-related. I'm not saying that there is
> no issue with hotplug, just that the investigation so far seems to
> target mostly idle systems, AFAIK without stressing hotplug.
>
>>
>> We should not be migrating towards, or waking on, CPUs no longer present
>> in cpu_active_map, and there is a rcu/sched_sync() after clearing that
>> bit. Furthermore, migration_call() does a sched_ttwu_pending() (waking
>> any remaining stragglers) before we migrate all runnable tasks off the
>> dying CPU.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other interesting case would be resched_cpu(), which uses
>> set_nr_and_not_polling() to kick a remote cpu to call schedule(). It
>> atomically sets TIF_NEED_RESCHED and returns if TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG was
>> not set. If indeed not, it will send an IPI.
>>
>> This assumes the idle 'exit' path will do the same as the IPI does; and
>> if you look at cpu_idle_loop() it does indeed do both
>> preempt_fold_need_resched() and sched_ttwu_pending().
>>
>> Note that one cannot rely on irq_enter()/irq_exit() being called for the
>> scheduler IPI.
>
> Looking at commit e3baac47f0e82c4be632f4f97215bb93bf16b342 :
>
> set_nr_if_polling() returns true if the ti->flags read has the
> _TIF_NEED_RESCHED bit set, which will skip the IPI.
>
> But it seems weird. The side that calls set_nr_if_polling()
> does the following:
> 1) llist_add(&p->wake_entry, &cpu_rq(cpu)->wake_list)
> 2) set_nr_if_polling(rq->idle)
> 3) (don't do smp_send_reschedule(cpu) since set_nr_if_polling() returned
> true)
>
> The idle loop does:
> 1) __current_set_polling()
> 2) __current_clr_polling()
> 3) smp_mb__after_atomic()
> 4) sched_ttwu_pending()
> 5) schedule_preempt_disabled()
> -> This will clear the TIF_NEED_RESCHED flag
>
> While the idle loop is in sched_ttwu_pending(), after
> it has done the llist_del_all() (thus has grabbed all the
> list entries), TIF_NEED_RESCHED is still set. If both list_all and
> set_nr_if_polling() are called right after the llist_del_all(), we
> will end up in a situation where we have an entry in the list, but
> there won't be any reschedule sent on the idle CPU until something
> else awakens it. On a _very_ idle CPU, this could take some time.
>
> set_nr_and_not_polling() don't seem to have the same issue, because
> it does not return true if TIF_NEED_RESCHED is observed as being
> already set: it really just depends on the state of the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG
> bit.
>
> Am I missing something important ?

Well, it seems that the test for _TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG in set_nr_if_polling()
just before the test for _TIF_NEED_RESCHED should take care of it: while in
sched_ttwu_pending within the idle loop, the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG should be
cleared, thus causing set_nr_if_polling to return false.

I'm slightly concerned about the lack of smp_mb__after_atomic()
between the TIF_NEED_RESCHED flag being cleared within schedule_preempt_disabled
and the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG being set in the following loop. Indeed, clear_bit()
does not have a compiler barrier, nor processor-level memory barriers
(of course, the processor memory barrier should not really matter on
x86-64 due to lock prefix). Moreover, TIF_NEED_RESCHED is bit 3 on x86-64,
whereas TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG is bit 21. Those are in two different bytes of
the thread flags, and thus set/cleared as different addresses by clear_bit()
acting on an immediate "nr" argument.

If we have any state where TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG is set before TIF_NEED_RESCHED
is cleared within the idle thread, we could end up missing a needed resched IPI.

Another question: why are set_nr_if_polling and set_nr_and_not_polling two
different implementations ? Could they be combined ?

Thanks,

Mathieu


>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
> --
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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