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SubjectRe: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17
----- On Mar 27, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:40:18AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> Oh, and the patch I am running with is below. I am running x86, and so
>> some other architectures would of course need the corresponding patch
>> on that architecture.
>> -#define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG 21 /* idle is polling for TIF_NEED_RESCHED */
>> +/* #define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG 21 idle is polling for TIF_NEED_RESCHED */
> x86 is the only arch that really uses this heavily IIRC.
> Most of the other archs need interrupts to wake up remote cores.
> So what we try to do is avoid sending IPIs when the CPU is idle, for the
> remote wakeup case we use set_nr_if_polling() which sets
> TIF_NEED_RESCHED if TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG was set. If it wasn't, we'll send
> the IPI. Otherwise we rely on the idle loop to do sched_ttwu_pending()
> when it breaks out of loop due to TIF_NEED_RESCHED.
> But, you need hotplug for this to happen, right?

My understanding is that this seems to be detection of failures to be
awakened for a long time on idle CPUs. It therefore seems to be more
idle-related than cpu hotplug-related. I'm not saying that there is
no issue with hotplug, just that the investigation so far seems to
target mostly idle systems, AFAIK without stressing hotplug.

> We should not be migrating towards, or waking on, CPUs no longer present
> in cpu_active_map, and there is a rcu/sched_sync() after clearing that
> bit. Furthermore, migration_call() does a sched_ttwu_pending() (waking
> any remaining stragglers) before we migrate all runnable tasks off the
> dying CPU.
> The other interesting case would be resched_cpu(), which uses
> set_nr_and_not_polling() to kick a remote cpu to call schedule(). It
> atomically sets TIF_NEED_RESCHED and returns if TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG was
> not set. If indeed not, it will send an IPI.
> This assumes the idle 'exit' path will do the same as the IPI does; and
> if you look at cpu_idle_loop() it does indeed do both
> preempt_fold_need_resched() and sched_ttwu_pending().
> Note that one cannot rely on irq_enter()/irq_exit() being called for the
> scheduler IPI.

Looking at commit e3baac47f0e82c4be632f4f97215bb93bf16b342 :

set_nr_if_polling() returns true if the ti->flags read has the
_TIF_NEED_RESCHED bit set, which will skip the IPI.

But it seems weird. The side that calls set_nr_if_polling()
does the following:
1) llist_add(&p->wake_entry, &cpu_rq(cpu)->wake_list)
2) set_nr_if_polling(rq->idle)
3) (don't do smp_send_reschedule(cpu) since set_nr_if_polling() returned

The idle loop does:
1) __current_set_polling()
2) __current_clr_polling()
3) smp_mb__after_atomic()
4) sched_ttwu_pending()
5) schedule_preempt_disabled()
-> This will clear the TIF_NEED_RESCHED flag

While the idle loop is in sched_ttwu_pending(), after
it has done the llist_del_all() (thus has grabbed all the
list entries), TIF_NEED_RESCHED is still set. If both list_all and
set_nr_if_polling() are called right after the llist_del_all(), we
will end up in a situation where we have an entry in the list, but
there won't be any reschedule sent on the idle CPU until something
else awakens it. On a _very_ idle CPU, this could take some time.

set_nr_and_not_polling() don't seem to have the same issue, because
it does not return true if TIF_NEED_RESCHED is observed as being
already set: it really just depends on the state of the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG

Am I missing something important ?



Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.

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