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SubjectRE: [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:19:46AM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Make the driver uncallable first. The worst race that can happen
> > > > > is that open("/dev/tpm0", ...) returns -EPIPE. I do not consider
> > > > > this fatal at all.
> > > >
> > > > No responses for this reasonable proposal so I'll show what I mean:
> > >
> > > How is this any better than what Thomas proposed? It seems much
> > > worse to me since now we have even more stuff in the wrong order.
> > >
> > > There are three purposes to the ordering as it stands today
> > > 1) To guarantee that tpm2_shutdown is the last command delivered to
> > > the TPM. When it is issued all other ways to access the device
> > > are hard fenced off.
> >
> > I'm not sure where are you taking this requirements from simple bit is
> > just enough to make the HW inaccessible if the interface is designed
> > right.
> I'm having a hard time understanding the english in your email. (Jarkko do you
> know what Tomas is talking about??)

Will try to do better.

> > The ordering can be resolved, like this
> >
> > down_write(&chip->ops_sem);
> > if (chip->flags & TPM_CHIP_FLAG_TPM2)
> > tpm2_shutdown(chip, TPM2_SU_CLEAR);
> > up_write(&chip->ops_sem);
> >
> > device_del(&chip->dev);
> >
> > down_write(&chip->ops_sem);
> > chip->ops = NULL;
> > up_write(&chip->ops_sem);
> No, that is wrong as well, another thread can issue a TPM command between
> the device_del and the ops = NULL. Presumably that will fail the same as
> tpm2_shutdown does.

Right, but that's why we need the TPM_CHIP_FLAG_REGISTERED bit to stay.
Second, tmp2_shutdown only assure that the tpm state is saved, we are taking too hardline here. If another command is issued, this is a problem of the upper layers and it has to be fixed in the upper layer.
On the other hand it is much worse if tpm2_shutdown is not sent at all.

> > > I still haven't heard an explanation why Thomas's other patches need
> > > this, or why trying to change this ordering makes any sense at all
> > > considering how the subsystem is constructed.
> >
> > I thought it's quite clear form the commit message, the device_del
> Not clear at all the commit message describes the 'solution' not the problem.
> This doesn't help..

This is the problem statement form the commit message:

' But with the introduction of runtime power management it will result in
shutting down the parent device while it still in use.'

We are talking about

But again, the real bug is in design, where a device is used after device_del() is called.

> > naturally toggles runtime_pm of the parent device, it tries to resume
> > the parent device so it can perform denationalization and then suspend
> > the parent device back which caused tpm2_shutdown to fail.
> What code actually fails? I don't see anything in the runtime pm patch that
> relies on chip->dev at all.


> What code fails and why?

pm_runtime_reinit(dev) {
if (dev->parent)

> > I general we can not to implement power management via runtime_pm and
> > resolve the issue within tpm_crb driver but it's not abouth tpm_crb.
> > tpm2_shutdown is a tpm stack call it's not tpm_crb function, it uses
> > tpm_transmit_cmd and friends it should have valid tpm_chip initialized
> > and valid. I'm not sure what could be more clearer than that.
> I'll say it again, the tpm_transmit_cmd path must not require a registered chip-
> >dev.

I rephrase it again as well, this requirement is just abusing of the device interface.

> device_del only unregisters the dev, it does not deinitialize it, nor does it free
> any memory.

Someone will do a legitimate fix in device_del and all you house will crash on you, the device should not be used after device_del is called.
There is nothing in the interface that promises that nothing is destructed.

I still don't understand how this has any impact on the pm stuff
> when all the pm stuff is attached only to the pdev.

There is device hierarchy which is important for power management, please read the code.

> > I have to admit that I'm not sure what the vtpm does yet, but I have a
> > feeling that a simple flag can fix this.
> What flag? Fix what?



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