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SubjectRe: [PATCH/RFC 4/4] soc: renesas: Identify SoC and register with the SoC bus
Hi Arnd,

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Arnd Bergmann <> wrote:
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 8:16:00 PM CEST Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Arnd Bergmann <> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:02:57 AM CEST Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Arnd Bergmann <> wrote:
>> > I'd prefer seeing a separate soc driver for that one.
>> >> Some SoCs have only CCCR, others have only PRR, some have both.
>> >> On some SoCs one of them can be accessed from the RealTime CPU
>> >> core (SH) only.
>> >> On some SoCs the register is not documented, but present.
>> >> If the PRR exists, it's a better choice, as it contains additional information
>> >> in the high order bits (representing the presence of each big (CA15/CA57),
>> >> little (CA7/CA53), and RT (CR7) CPU core). Currently we don't use that
>> >> information, though.
>> >>
>> >> Grouping them in some other way means we would loose the family name,
>> >> which is exposed through soc_dev_attr->family.
>> >> The usefulness of family names is debatable though, as this is more an
>> >> issue of marketing business.
>> >
>> > How about having a table to look up the family name by the value
>> > of the PRR or CCCR then?
>> Unfortunately there exist SoCs from different families using the same
>> product ID.
>> And different SoCs from the same family may have a revision register
>> or not (e.g. R-Car H1 has, M1A hasn't).
> Is this something we expect to see more of in the future, or can
> we expect future chips to handle this more consistently?

I expect to see more of these in the future.

Perhaps I just should forget about the product IDs and (marketing) families,
and just stick the CCCR/PRR addresses in the of_device_ids?
Then we'll have SoC names (e.g. "r8a7791") and (optional) revisions
(e.g. "ES1.0") to match on.

>> > How about this:
>> >
>> > The driver could report the hardcoded strings for the SoCs it already
>> > knows about (you have the table anyway) and not report the revision
>> > unless there is a regmap containing the CCCR or the PRR, in which
>> > case you use that. Future SoCs will provide the PRR (I assume
>> > CCCR is only used on the older ones) through a syscon regmap
>> > that we can use to find out the exact revision as well.
>> >
>> > The existing DT files can gain the syscon device so you can report
>> > the revision on those machines as well, unless you use an old DTB.
>> Hmm... That means that if we have to add a driver quirk to distinguish
>> between different revisions of the same SoC, we have to update the
>> DTB anyway, to add the CCCR/PRR device node.
>> We might as well just change the compatible value in that DTB for the
>> device that needs the quirk. Which is what we'd like to avoid in the
>> first place.
> Do you have a specific example in mind? If this is only a theoretical
> problem, we can worry about it when we get there, and then decide
> if we add a hardcoded register after all.

For R-Car H3, there are small differences between ES1.0 and ES1.1,
and more and larger differences between ES1.x and ES2.0, which
need different handling (patches already floating around).

For (old) R-Car H1, the SATA driver already handles "renesas,sata-r8a7790-es1",
but so far there didn't exist an established process to specify how that
compatible value would end up in the DTB (the in-kernel DTS doesn't have it).

There may be more differences I'm not aware of.

>> > Why not just drop all the #ifdef here? There should be very little
>> > overhead in size, especially if all the data is __initconst.
>> It still saves ca. 3 KiB for a kernel for a single SoC.
> Fair enough, that is more than I was expecting from looking at the
> source. It's probably the of_device_id structures for the most part.

Yep, ca. 200 bytes per ID.

> Please just add the __maybe_unused then, to save us a patch in case
> we make -Wunused-const the default in the future.




Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 --

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds

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